Bears are big, tough animals that are unforgiving when hit bad. For the shoulder/heart shot, which is popular for anchoring bears in their tracks, follow the centerline of the front leg up to … SHOULDER SHOTS I've never been much impressed by tales of 450-yard kill shots on deer or other game. I watched a friend shot a black bear broadside at about 300 yds in a clear cut. This is the hunter who believes that 20 bullets can equal 20 deer, and he'll wait to shoot only when he's extremely confident of accurately placing a bullet. So, where on an animal should we try to place our bullet to ensure a one-shot, clean kill? Black Bear Shot Placement. Here’s […] A shoulder shot bear might not be fatally wounded. The Best Shot Placement for Black Bear 31 Jan. Here are five keys to making a great shot this spring. The more difficult shot to visualize is when an animal is quartering away. Luckily, we stumbled upon the bear the next morning. Here are 7 ways to help make sure it truly counts. Advanced Black Bear Anatomy and Shot Placement Guide. HEART SHOTS There's little room for error: too far forward and you've got a non-fatal brisket shot; too low and you've hit muscle or broken a leg, with no expectation of quickly recovering the animal. Here are some important considerations in making that happen. The lighter fur of other game animals helps highlight the body with defining shadows – not so on a bruin. I remember one moose I shot three times in the span of about 10 seconds. It’s so close and it seems hard to miss. A steep angled, quartering-away shot from a treestand left me with only an entry wound and no blood. A well-hit bear won’t last long, however they are extremely unforgiving when hit marginally. If you’ve got the time, my advice is to wait for a broadside shot with firearm and bow. Maybe you've even lost an animal or two yourself over the years-as much as I'm loath to admit it, I know I have. “Low and tight” to the shoulder is a great shot on a deer. It was 360 yards away. Wounded black bears are as mean as any other bear in the thickets. While some hunters use shoulder shots on larger animals such as moose and elk, I find the resulting dispersal of bullet and bone fragments ruins too much meat. MARKSMANSHIP The Boone-and-Crockett-class black bear sashayed into the bait with confidence. The diagram below shows the proper shot placement to hit the bear’s heart/lung area. Go For A Double-Lung Hit (Heart shots are overrated). Got hung up on some brush for about a minute before he gave a kick and continued to roll down the hill. I know some may disagree, but this is one shot I simply won't take, and I advise others to follow suit. In summary, I like to shoot about 4-5 inches back from the shoulder on a broadside bear. If you shoot just a little too far back, however, you may get lucky and strike the liver. SHOT PLACEMENT of a Black Bear Shot placement on a black bear is extremely important in order to get a quick kill. SO, you’ve opted for a lung shot. As far as charging bears go, I think shooting as fast as you can is what I would try, if I had the chance and the mental ability to react quick enough. While we all know the old "Texas heart shot" through the behind can be fatal, the odds are your bullet will break up or deflect on contact with bones, impeding its ability to get into the vital organs. Originally Posted by ironbender I was asking where the escapee was hit. From what I’ve seen with bears, my experience is with Brown bears, the shot placement is what makes or breaks the situation. As for spine or neck shots, it can be difficult to visualize exactly where to find the spinal column thanks to the bear's long hair and thick body. When archery hunting, use a broadhead that maximizes penetration. The first step in ensuring accurate bullet placement comes with the decision to squeeze the trigger. Black bear #4- 325 wsm with 200 gr Accubond, broadside lung shot at 178 yards, tried to run up the mnt. The impulsiveness to rush the shot is probably the biggest mistake that a bear hunter can make. Despite that, I'm not sure I'd take the same shot today if it were presented. Firearm hunters and bowhunters have a responsibility to make quick kills and recover all game. The blunt, rounded shape can cause bullets or arrows to glance off or become lodged in the skull without penetrating. Long hair and fat seem to soak up blood that would usually be on the ground and used for trailing. All of these positions are much different than a deer. In most cases, the animal won't drop on the spot, but seldom will it travel more than 100 yards or so before falling over; the damage a modern bullet does to the lungs is that devastating. Good choice. My favorite shot is a broadside or slightly quartering shot with the onside front shoulder forward or straight down. Every time this happens I’m tempted to pull the trigger before being 100% sure where I’m aiming. Front Street Townsend, MT 59644. Having shot a whitetail through the shoulder last year, I can speak first-hand of the meat that was wasted. I recommend not shooting when animals are quartering away at extreme angles or facing directly away from you. None of us is comfortable with the subject, but if you have any measurable hunting experience, you've undoubtedly seen examples. As hunters, our most important priority is to do everything possible to ensure a clean, quick, humane kill-it's our moral obligation every time we head afield. After doing this a few times, you’ll get your bearings. I’ve personally done a necropsy on a bear and found the lungs to extend back to the second-to-last rib. then quickly realized he was dead Brown bear #1- I finally took my first brown bear this fall. 28-Mar-16. As such, when my quarry is broadside, I generally aim for the centre of the chest, just behind the shoulder. I once heard the phrase, “You won’t rise to the occasion, but you’ll default to your training.” You’ve got to intentionally train yourself where to aim on a bear. Avoid the head-the target is too small and you'll ruin the best part of your fireplace rug. More than once while bowhunting bears at close range using riflescopes and archery sights, I’ve had this harrowing experience. While the average black bear is no bigger than your average white-tailed buck, it's much heavier boned. I don't track wounded bears because I don't wound them. The best place to shoot a charging bear is in the nose, and that’s not a very large target. Think I will have a poster made up of the picture in this article for out hunters. The only advice I have is to be patient and take an extra 10 seconds before shooting. There's no denying the surest fatal shot is to the brain or spinal column. In such situations, it's just as certain that the bullet didn't hit the animal in the right place. if (document.body.clientWidth <= 1024) { I have seen bears go along ways with a heart, lung shot. ... Word rapidly spread throughout town that a huge bear had been shot and was hanging on “Cherry” Kempf’s wrecker down by the bank. If you want to hunt black bears over natural food, the formula may be easy. It was his fanaticism over bullet placement coupled with an understanding of his quarry's anatomy-that allowed him to tale down so many elephants with his meager .275 Rigby, a cartridge equivalent to today's 7x5 7. Animals hit in this vital organ tend not to go too far before lying down. SHOOTING ANGLES He was only 11 yards away when I drew the bow and looked through the peep. An animal that is harvested humanely shows more character in a hunter than just a lucky shot. You’ll need to be disciplined and wait for a broadside shot – especially the archers. He figured a lung shot bear is a dead bear. I can’t say that I disagree, but I would like to make a slight adjustment – “middle of the middle and then back towards the shoulder a few inches.” If you take the original phrase literally you’d be shooting towards the back edge of the lungs and directly at the liver. Whether you're new to bear hunting or a seasoned vet this is a good podcast to listen to you're likely to enjoy. The best opportunity to get a pass-through shot is going to be when the bear is broadside. Quartering Away Shot: Red Arrows Are Kill Shots (Black Bad Shot): Take this into consideration before you pull the trigger or let that arrow fly. However, the biggest issue will be shot placement and shot angle. My first time out was with a … Please Note: Some parts of the article that pertain directly to moose hunting and deer hunting have been removed. Before you hit the switch, you must have an extremely high expectation of putting the bullet right where you want it, and that means understanding your own limitations as a marksman. Too far forward and you have a debilitating shoulder shot. While its probably not WISE to take on a black bear with 9mm, shot placement still rules - and realistically black bears aren't THAT large. Shot placement on bears for me is the same as deer, I always take the first available good shot when the bear comes into the bait as usually they are broadside and standing. The bear will die quickly, but without a blood trail he might be hard to find! The biggest threat to penetration is the front shoulder – stay away from it. The shoulder and leg bones are tougher, and configured differently than ungulates (as shown in the video). You’ll need to aim well above it to get into the chest cavity! Be careful not to shoot low or forward, or you'll quickly have a wounded animal on your hands. W. waggler OP trapper waggler OP trapper. Bad shot placement at 30yds and four good legs on the black bear. He grabbed up the only weapon he had loaded and ready at the moment which was a .22LR rifle. A professional hunter in Africa once told me he thought North American hunters tended to shoot dead centre in the chest of an animal; he believed the more effective shot was to the top of the lower third of the chest. I almost didn’t recover the largest-skulled bear I’ve ever killed, even though he was less than 150 yards from where I shot him. And the chest is extremely hard to penetrate. Kill shots 3 is a Compilation of Animals taken whilst I've been hunting and filming hunts. Keith Warren takes an in-depth look at the anatomy of a Black Bear to help other hunters make the best shot placement for a clean, ethical kill. Shot looked good, bear dropped and rolled end over end like an old tire down the hill. else if (document.body.clientWidth > 1025) { For the shoulder/heart shot, which is popular for anchoring bears in their tracks, follow the centreline of the front … Another factor is black bears have long thick fur … This allows for a fair margin of error. Only when you shoot too far back do you have a problem-animals shot in the paunch typically suffer lingering deaths, and if you do happen to recover one, you've got a heckuva mess on your hands when it comes to field-dressing it. He’s got a nice layer of fat and fur coat that may be three to four inches long. Hunters typically aim low when bowhunting deer because they drop at the sound of the shot. From: razorhead. Ruger270man OP. A bear won’t jump the string like a whitetail. Whether you’re shooting a rifle or a bow, prioritize getting an entrance and exit wound. For black bear that are run with dogs, which they do here in the mountains of TN & NC, most dog owners want you to shoot a bear in the HEAD. Show Links. Elk hunt to be continued.....This is about Tom Schneider in pursuit of an archery elk. If I’d waited for a broadside shot, I would likely recovered the bear within thirty minutes of the shot. Here is a very good article on shot placement for black bear. And, oh yeah, it can eat you when it's ticked off, which is its typical demeanour when wounded. . Making a clean kill should be the top priority for hunters who decide to shoot a bear. With few exceptions, I shudder when I hear hunters talking about their long shots-much like a gambling addict bragging about his one win, for each tale of success there are likely tenfold as many unspoken failures. This Alaska brown bear was shot at 17 steps while he was quartering away from him. If you’ve got a big caliber gun, a frontal shot square in the sternum is deadly, but requires precision. However, especially if you are bowhunting, you will get a clearer shot at this vital spot if you wait for the bear to move its nearest foreleg forward. Head shots are not recommended either since a bear skull is very dense and its blunt, rounded shape can cause bullets or arrows to glance off ineffectively. Campfire Regular. The only practical room for error is if you shoot high and take out the lungs. QuoteA fellow in our of our camp did two behind the shoulders (30-06) last season and never found either one. Hint: Shot placement on a black bear is not the same as on a whitetail most of us grew up hunting. And if you shoot too low, you've got an animal with a broken leg that can still escape, only to later succumb to its wounds or predators. Everyone knows that. 2N. And if your bullet strikes too far back, you've got a gutshot animal. But when it comes to a quick kill, the single most important factor is bullet placement. Be aware that the tendency in this situation is to shoot too far back, resulting in an unwanted paunch shot. A double lung will often kill an animal quicker, it’s a larger target, and the organs are further away from big bones that stop penetration. My favorite shot is a broadside or slightly quartering shot with the onside front shoulder forward or straight down. The vitals are all exposed for a proper kill shot. If he’s at a steep quartering angle you won’t get a pass through and you’ll be trailing a bear with single entry wound. } Why exactly can be blamed on any number of variables, but in most cases it's safe to say the shot should never have been taken in the first place. WUNDED and lost big game animals are part of the somber side of hunting. Black Bear Shot Placement. Since bears have massive, muscular shoulders and heavy bones, a shoulder shot is not recommended. document.write('
'); He may well have been right, but 1 still maintain that allowing as much room for error as possible is the wisest thing most of us can do. The reason for the popularity of this has to do with the greater margin of error. excellent post, read and printed,,,,, thanks . Many new bear hunters carry with them shot placement and strategy derived from experience deer hunting. He could be standing up on two legs. It’s similar, but different. OP. In the worst-case scenario, you may sever the trachea-the animal will likely escape, but suffer a lingering demise. He didn’t go 20 yards before falling over, graveyard dead. First and foremost, a bullet through the lungs results in an almost certain one-shot kill. A head shot is not recommended since a bear skull is very dense. A bear’s elongated frame translates to lungs that are slightly (and I mean slightly) further back than a deer. A bear has the body structure to put himself in all types of odd shapes. That means you want your first shot to count. Personally, I don’t suggest expandable broadheads for bear. Again, this takes us back to aiming at the middle mass, not towards the periphery of the animal. Clayton Mack of Bella Coola guided over 300 Grizzly hunts and always recommended lung shots. Permalink: /2019/9/5-tips-for-shot-placement-on-bear-podcast, /2019/9/5-tips-for-shot-placement-on-bear-podcast. The bottom silhouette of a bear is deceptive. I've never lost a bear when shooting X and TSX bullets. Bears are notoriously hard to blood trail. } Another thing to keep in mind when considering the shoulder shot is that if you shoot too high or too far in front, you've got either a clean miss or an animal with agonizing wounds. Ideally you need to break down a bear, and bust his shoulder or preferably both. A high shoulder hit will drop a bear, but I’d still suggest a double lung hit. I wont usually take a head or neck shot,as poor placement on the smaller target can cause an animal to not be recovered and suffer. Trace the back of the front leg up to about one-third of the way into the chest. I had no idea where I was aiming. on a five-point bull elk in B.C. The heart shot gets a lot of attention, though I suspect most hunters don't actually realize just how low in the chest the heart lies in big game. Perhaps I no longer feel the need to, as I might have back when I was a much less seasoned hunter. Shoot low, and you'll take out the heart; a bit high and you'll sever the spinal column. You still want your bullet to enter the chest cavity, however, so it's important to visualize the path your bullet must take. The lungs on a bear are positioned a little more forward than on an ungulate, so you don’t have as much leeway if you shoot back of your aiming point. I have found when I have waited and let the bear get comfortable at the bait barrels they lay down, twist, they are always reaching and leaning, this can mean trouble and a long wait and winds can swirl, and big bears … I have seen a pile of them shot with both guns and arrows, and while the projectile may be different, there is one constant – hit the animal in the right place and he’s yours relatively quickly, but hit him wrong and you have big problems. Either will put an animal down almost instantly, and result in very little ruined meat. For the shoulder/heart shot, which is popular for anchoring bears in their tracks, follow the centreline of the front leg up to the one-third point of the body. The bull was dead when we got to him, having never moved. Take your shot with the intention of breaking the far side shoulder and you'll generally send your bullet through the desired lung region. The blunt, rounded shape can cause bullets or arrows to glance off or become lodged in the skull without penetrating. I dump them where they stand. if (document.body.clientWidth <= 800) { With an animal quartering toward you, your target should be somewhere between the base of the neck and the point of the facing shoulder. From: GoJakesGo. For starters, the brain is a relatively small target, and even a narrow miss can result in a broken jaw, lost eye or other similar wound that condemns an animal to a most unpleasant, slow death. } Posts: 1,074. Much has been written and discussed about selecting the best rifle, cartridge, bullet and optics for hunting specific species under various conditions. We all know that. Many bear hunters have been indoctrinated by whitetail shot placement, and it doesn’t completely translate to bear. I just shot a sleeping bear point blank in the side of the head in the cave by Misanthrope's. BULLET PLACEMENT Black Bear: While the average black bear is no larger than your average white-tailed buck, the boned … In my opinion, this shot should be reserved for dangerous game, particularly bears. A low-hit bear will often bleed very well for a period of time, then the blood will begin to turn watery and eventually disappear. I don’t trust mechanicals for bears. A bear doesn’t have the same “flight” response as a deer, so aiming extremely low isn’t necessary and can even be bad. QuoteA fellow in our of our camp did two behind the shoulders (30-06) last season and never found either one. They're also acceptable in the rare event of an emergency, when a dangerous animal needs to be brought down in a hurry. IBEP Hunter Study the bear diagram. If you shoot an animal in the neck whether by design or by accident-it's therefore important to keep a close eye on it until you've confirmed it's down for keeps. Most of this advice is sage indeed, helping hunters learn about and understand the limitations of their equipment. Bears seem to always be moving, especially when you’re hunting them over bait. Hunting with firearms for bear is more forgiving. While such shots are possible, not many hunters can make them with any consistency. Click on any animal for more information and resources on targeting and the vital areas that an archer should be … Behind the nose, there is a channel in the skull leading directly to the brain. Incorrect shot placement on a black bear can lead to unnecessary suffering, wounding, and failure to retrieve the animal. If you are a bowhunter, take practice shots at your site to build your confidence from an elevated position. Shot looked good, bear dropped and rolled end over end like an old tire down the hill. I have a cousin who 15-20 years ago heard a lot of commotion out by his pig pen. This is mainly due to the black bears having heavier bones and hides compared to other big game animals. A .243 in the heart or lungs of even the largest big-game animal, for example, is more certain to result in its demise than a .500 Nitro Express in its leg. If an animal is facing you directly, the centre base of the neck is the preferred target. I’ve witnessed multiple bears wounded because the hunter tried to “heart shoot” them like a whitetail. Miss by even a little bit, and you've probably got an animal with a muscular wound from which it will likely recover, but not without considerable agony. To boil down my shot placement philosophy, aim 8 inches up from belly line and 6 inches behind the shoulder on a broadside bruin. It's a certainty that as long as there's hunting, game will be wounded and not recovered. While its probably not WISE to take on a black bear with 9mm, shot placement still rules - and realistically black bears aren't THAT large. However, especially if you are bowhunting, you will get a clearer shot at this vital spot if you wait for the bear to move its nearest foreleg forward. Bad Shot: Good Shot: The best shot on a black bear is a quartering away shot with the front leg extended forward along the side you intend to shoot. Whether the hunter who first hit it was aiming for the brain, I can't say for sure, but the buck was clearly laboring, almost choking on blood, and would have suffered considerably had I not come across it. Perhaps it’s a predatory instinct in humans, but seeing our prey move makes us feel like we have to act quickly. Head and neck shots do have their place in the right circumstances, but they should only be taken at close range by capable shooters who know their quarry's anatomy. The diagram below shows the proper shot placement to hit the bear’s heart/lung area. }. document.write(''); Remember, when it comes to shot placement, the goal isn’t simply a freezer full of meat it’s also to get the job done quickly and efficiently. Seeing it is far better than trying to explain it. Bears can often have a thick layer of fat on their belly, and they also have long hair. Finally, that bear isn’t as big as he looks. Incorrect shot placement on a black bear can lead to ... A head shot is not recommended since a bear skull is very dense. A broadside shot gives the most room for error and the greatest opportunity for the most lethal hit of all – a double lung shot. One complaint that members of the public (other hunters and non- hunters) have about hunters is “slow deaths, wounded and … Additionally, they often inhabit thick, dense brush making tracking conditions difficult. It didn't take two steps during that time, and I couldn't understand how I could be missing such a big target. A bear really isn’t as big as he looks because of hair and fat. Learn the anatomy and proper shot placement on a black bear in this its body in a unique position, it can be challenging to locate the vitals.Black Bear Vitals and Shot Placement. I could see the glowing pin well, but my sight window was full of black fur! A deer has short hair and little fat. Our prized game animals deserve nothing less. In my opinion, the “heart shot” is overrated. This is mainly due to the black bears having heavier bones and hides compared to other big game animals. I once shot an antelope sporting a fresh bullet wound through the bridge of its nose. He got up and ran away roaring leaving a blood trail and I ran up to the house and slept for 4 hrs (4hrs was overkill after just reading Selfless' post), came back and he was slumped at the tip of the island, gonna try with the bow next time to save ammo. Often, an animal will not react immediately to a lung shot, causing some hunters to think they've missed when they've actually made an excellent shot. He could be sprawled out lying on his belly. ... and I were part of the crowd that quickly gathered to look at/admire this magnificent creature. Very hard to trail because they bleed so little cause the fat plugs up the hole. Bears are soft skinned and the rib bones are fairly light. Originally Posted by ironbender I was asking where the escapee was hit. For a bear not to run, the shot must be in the shoulder and connecting BOTH, or high enough to take out the spine as well. The animal dropped soon after the third shot, however, and when I skinned it out, a salad plate would have covered all three holes in its chest and lungs. With a rifle your margin for error is larger, but it’s still a good option for a gun. I watched a friend shot a black bear broadside at about 300 yds in a clear cut. But then I always use 338 and up for bear hunting. else if (document.body.clientWidth > 801) { It's pretty easy to pick up on these differences, but very important nonetheless. The lungs also offer a relatively large target, bigger than any other assuredly fatal zone on a game animal. The lungs on a bear are positioned a little more forward than on an ungulate, so you don't have as much leeway if you shoot back of your aiming point. Pull your eye away from the scope or peep and look at the bear with your naked eye, then look back through the aiming apparatus. For a discussion of black bear shot placement we recommend visiting schematron.org North American Game Anatomy. 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